CIA Planned To Plant Fake Nuke In Iran

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  1. Rainman

    Rainman Senior Investor

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    The CIA has committed millions of atrocities and apparently they've sunk to a new low. Their plan was to plant a fake nuke in Iran which they intended to be found by inspectors. Wonder whether they [the U.S government] will try something different so they can have an excuse for attacking Iran? The article is linked to below:


    Details of a 15-year-old Central Intelligence Agency sting emerging from a court case in the U.S. may prompt United Nations monitors to reassess some evidence related to Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons work, two western diplomats said.

    International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors in Vienna will probably review intelligence they received about Iran as a result of the revelations, said the two diplomats who are familiar with the IAEA’s Iran file and asked not to be named because the details are confidential. The CIA passed doctored blueprints for nuclear-weapon components to Iran in February 2000, trial documents have shown.

    “This story suggests a possibility that hostile intelligence agencies could decide to plant a ‘smoking gun’ in Iran for the IAEA to find,” said Peter Jenkins, the U.K.’s former envoy to the Vienna-based agency. “That looks like a big problem.”

    The UN agency is charged with deciding whether the Iranian government has been trying to develop nuclear weapons and its ruling may determine whether international sanctions against the country are lifted. While Iranian officials have consistently accused the IAEA of basing its case on forged documents, the agency has never acknowledged receiving tampered evidence.

    CIA Whistle-Blower

    A spokesman for the IAEA said the agency carries out a thorough assessment of the information it receives. The CIA didn’t immediately respond to e-mail and telephone requests for comment.

    The CIA documents were filed as evidence to an Alexandria, Virginia court on Jan. 14 for the trial of Jeffrey Sterling, who was convicted of leaking classified information about operations against Iran. Sterling worked on a CIA project aimed at misleading Iranian scientists by feeding modified designs for nuclear-weapons components to the country’s IAEA mission in Austria.

    “The goal is to plant this substantial piece of deception information on the Iranian nuclear-weapons program, sending them down blind alleys, wasting their time and money,” according to a May 1997 cable submitted to the court.

    The project remains relevant because elements of the IAEA’s suspicions about Iran rest on older information provided by intelligence agencies.


    Monitoring Iran

    IAEA inspectors don’t only rely on spy data, according to one of the diplomats, who pointed to the agency’s assessment of Iran’s Parchin Military complex, where the country is alleged to have tested high explosives. Satellite imagery analysis and open-source data also play roles, the person said.

    Iran probably stopped pursuing a nuclear bomb in 2003, according to the most recently published U.S. National Intelligence Estimate, the consensus of 16 intelligence agencies including the CIA. Still, suspicions linger. The IAEA reported Thursday that its 12-year probe of Iran has stalled.

    “While the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared nuclear material” inspectors cannot “conclude that all nuclear material in Iran is in peaceful activities,” the IAEA said in its quarterly report.

    The CIA sting shows the kind of tactics that the U.S. and its allies have used against Iran, according to Dan Joyner, a law professor at the University of Alabama.

    “The falsification of nuclear-related documents is a very real part of such states’ efforts to frustrate Iran’s nuclear program,” said Joyner, who has written extensively on nuclear proliferation risks. “This revelation highlights the dangers of reliance by the IAEA upon evidence concerning Iran provided to it by third party states whose political agendas are antithetical to Iran.”



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  2. crimsonghost747

    crimsonghost747 Senior Investor

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    Well let's see, just from the 1 phrase that you quoted.

    "suggest"
    "possibility"
    "could"

    Suggesting that there is a possibility that something could happen seems like a fancy term for saying "look I've got no idea but I'll open my mouth anyway."
     
  3. JR Ewing

    JR Ewing Super Moderator Staff Member

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    The CIA has recently been thrown under the bus by the current admin for various reasons. Once you wind up on their shit list, look out.
     
  4. ally79

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    Why do that though? now if a nuke is found there or anywhere else people will think the possibility is there that someone just planted it so they would have an excuse to attack. It just seems like a very dumb move to me to let that become public knowledge.
     
  5. Rainman

    Rainman Senior Investor

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    Would it be the first time the media goes overboard with sensationalizing things? And since their readers like that kind of stuff, they feed it to them. Nonetheless since there might be some truth in what's said, an investigation to ascertain the veracity of the allegations would be in order.
     
  6. gmckee1985

    gmckee1985 Senior Investor

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    The CIA does a lot of important work to protect our country and its interests. Unfortunately the left wing has been going after them on multiple fronts so I'm not surprised to see them lashing out a bit. Doesnt make it right or excuse certain tactics. But I certainly see where theyre coming from.
     
  7. Samu Zadori

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    While the CIA may be in an important agency in keeping us safe, it should not be unregulated. The so-called "left wing" is absolutely right in pointing out that the CIA doesn't always operate as it was intended to, and we shouldn't be turning a blind eye to that.

    With that being said, this article is complete bogus (excuse my language).
     
  8. JoshPosh

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    Doesn't this strike you as a bit odd? There are talks of the CIA planting a nuke in Iran so they can get caught with it? You think they are going to do it now that it has hit the news and internet? I hope not. That would be stupid.
     
  9. Sunflogun

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    I don't think it's odd at all, the CIA and other secret agencies can do pretty much everything and many times the administrations aren't even aware of that, there is a high level of autonomy, at least formally.
     
  10. asbrown

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    I guess it's the nature of their work that attracts some of these ridiculous ideas. Don't get me wrong, the CIA has got up to some awful things over the years, but a fake nuke in Iran is groundless. First of all, the US just needed the suspicion of WMD to invade Iraw, so it's not like anyone needed to over-complicate things with Iran. Second, while Iran often doesn't play nice, and do show signs of funding terrorist groups in the region, they also serve as a counter balance against Shiite Islam states. It is much better for the US that Islamic states are divided over religious differences, rather than united under a more common belief system.
     

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