Virginia WDBJ Reporter and cameraman shot to death on live TV

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  1. Gloryontheway

    Gloryontheway Guest

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    I am so disguised with so many deranged killings going on against innocent people.
    Something has to been done about people that are walking around mentally ill and not having to be under the care of some sort of mental health treatment. How are we suppose to live?

    What do we have to do, just make sure you are watching over your shoulder everywhere you go.
    When will somebody figure out what to do with people that clearly needs medical attention that would lead so many harmless people getting killed?

    That gunmen shot at the reporter and the cameraman 14 times.
    How come somebody did not know that he was in serious need of medical care way before today?
    My condolences to the loved ones friends and family members and the news station WDBJ of Virginia for your loss.
     
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  2. baudwalk

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    Respectfully, I would not be identifying the shooter as "mentally ill" without a formal diagnosis. Mental illness can be rooted in depression or anxiety or bipolar disorders, chemical imbalances manifesting itself in the brain, or physical issues in the brain or nervous system. The over medication of prescription drugs prescribed by multiple physicians without a comprehensive oversight can be a contributing factor. It is too easy to say someone is crazy, therefore mentally ill. There are people who do legitimately suffer from the disease, and there should be diagnosis and help. This country doesn't devote enough resources to the identification, diagnosis and treatment of mental illness. I understand there is a fine line to walk in the identification of those who suffer from mental illness, patient confidentiality and the public's right to safety. I know I don't have the answers but I do recognize there is a serious problem here that doesn't have sufficient resources applied to possible solutions.

    In the few reports I have seen this day, I question the motives of this person. Was he angry and carrying a grudge about losing a job, or was he trying to carry out a politically motivated agenda or manifesto, or fueled by drugs or alcohol? Was it racially motivated? Just to say he was "crazy" therefore mentally ill, isn't, in my opinion, the best answer.here.

    Unfortunately this tragic event is already bringing out the gun nuts. We should ban all guns, trash the second amendment, and so forth. Not going to happen. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. And on and on. The gun permitting process in the various states lacks sufficient screening. Nothing will stop the illegal gun flow as evidenced by the large numbers of street shootings and murders in the largest urban centers of this country. Jump up and down on either side of guns or no guns issue, and it still doesn't solve the issues of "crazy" and mental illness.

    YMMV.
     
  3. TheApollonian

    TheApollonian Well-Known Member

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    I heard about this. I don't know the exact details but I read they were shot by another employee of the station. Maybe it was workplace revenge or something? I can only guess but the thing is it boils down to being kind and caring towards each other. If you notice anything odd about your co-worker lend an ear. If they're displaying any signs of distress maybe you should go to them. It's always a good idea to atleast know who you're working with.
     
  4. Rainman

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    It might have been revenge or something just as stupid. Or it could be a racially motivated attack. No matter what excuse is proffered to justify it, the shooting of innocent people is unacceptable. Unfortunately though we'll see more of this killings for as long as people own guns.
     
  5. norms options

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    Your comment about watching over your shoulder everywhere you go is what grabbed my attention, and I believe that we need to operate from a position of faith. There is no possible way we can seek out and lock up everyone who might commit an act such as this before it happens. Most of the time, we don't know the offender has an issue until after something like this happens. It is sad when people kill other people, and it is a sin, but we are not responsible for those actions. What we have to remember is to keep ourselves on the right path so we remain accountable and just try to live by example and help as many people as we can.
     
  6. baudwalk

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    As it turns out, the consensus is that the shooter was an angry man feeling like he was being racially discriminated against throughout his short working career. Not crazy, not mental illness, just p..... off at the world as he saw it. His "manifesto" and planning speaks volumes. Doesn't excuse what he did.
     
  7. Hyperion

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    He was a grievance-monger from two of America's largest victim status groups. Killings like these have been fueled by the media for years, and by the attitudes of groups like "BlackLivesMatter" and Al Sharpton, etc. Weird how it was done by a former TV anchor.
    He was a racist, and was trying to start a race war because he felt justified by what happened in Charleston. It is really sad these shootings keep happening. I thought race relations were going to improve because America elected a black president, but they've gotten worse and Obama needs to shoulder some of that blame. He has stocked the fires with his speeches about Trayvon Martin and the Ferguson riots.
    Not all of the shooters are mentally ill. Some people are just evil.
     
  8. JoshPosh

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    It was reported a few hours ago that the gunman did die in a nearby hospital from self inflicted wounds. What I find even more disturbing that he was on social media bragging about the whole ordeal and took pictures just before pulling the trigger.

    Details are coming in, but from what I hears is that it was racial charged motives, and the shooter did file charges against those that was shot and killed and they had settled out of court. That should of been the end of that, but this man, took it a step further and took it to that level of no return.

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  9. JR Ewing

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    Good points.

    And the shooter's repeated grievance-based lawsuits were all dismissed and found to be without merit. It appears that he must have suffered from some sort of severe personality disorder(s) and/or mental disorder. He was a real loon. Whether or not he would have been found legally sane or insane in a court of law had he lived is something beyond my area of expertise - legal insanity can be a pretty complicated determination from what I understand.
     
  10. mooray

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    The problem is not that are many mentally disturbed people walking around, the problem is the law makes it easy for such people to acquire guns. How many times do such incidents have to happen in U.S.A for people to learn? I don't even know why people are campaigning for strict gun control policy when what they should be campaigning for is completely illegalizing guns for civilians.
     

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