How would you feel if Hilary Clinton is our next President ?

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  1. Rhoda D'Ettore

    Rhoda D'Ettore Guest

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    Wanting a female president or a president of any ethnicity or sexual orientation etc, is ridiculous. Sorry, but I want someone who is a sound candidate, who cares about the issues, who sets attainable goals and devises a plan to achieve them. It does not matter to me if they are a purple dinosaur, if the candidate has the ability to give jobs, cut spending and the deficit, and dare I say produce a surplus, then that is the person who should be getting our votes. One thing I think is hysterical is that people will say, "I'm a hard line (party here)" but they do not even know what that party represents.
     
  2. gmckee1985

    gmckee1985 Senior Investor

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    Excellent post, Rhoda. I don't get people who get all wrapped up into silly things like the gender or race of a politician. What we really need right now is someone who knows how to solve problems, is a logical thinker, and who isn't obsessed with an ideology whether it be conservative or progressive. We need a leader who knows how to get people to work together on the big issues of the day. Of which there are many.
     
  3. SteakTartare

    SteakTartare Senior Investor

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    Agreed, gmckee1985. That statement from her simultaneous illustrates how out of touch she is and how hostile to private industry her party has become. Our economy is already sluggish; more big government shenanigans are not going to help.
     
  4. caparica007

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    Sure, you can say that, she is the right or the wrong person due to her personal attributes as a politician, but that is not what will get her elected or not.
     
  5. Rhoda D'Ettore

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    Keep in mind, Hillary is the same woman who went around in the 90s yelling about how the "new health plan" she was working on was going to revolutionize the health care industry in the US. After years of blaming the drug companies for exorbitant prices, the stocks of the drug companies plummeted. Guess who bought the stock? then it was "the reform is too costly at this point" or some excuse. The Clintons made millions with that one. Hillary is also on the board of directors, along with daddy bush, for the chemical company who sold to Iraq to produce the same gas and WMD we supposedly attacked Saddam for. It is all circular. We need to oust them all and start over.
     
  6. Rhoda D'Ettore

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    In my opinion, it is the politicians' fault for not legislating proper term limits and donation limits. The big corporations donate to the campaigns in the hopes of buying a candidate who will jump through hoops for them. The candidate, who may even start out honest with a passion to do good is then put in a position where he must rely on the donations to get elected. Despite what people think and even what a couple posters here said, the two parties are very weak. The parties are no longer the ones who get politicians elected, teh donations do.

    So, the Senatorial candidate for your state needed $4 million to run, and you helped him fundraise half of it. When he gets elected, you see he will be voting on a law that will put a bunch of mandates on you before allowing certain breaks or deductions. What do you do? You call the newly elected Senator, "Hey, Joe! Can you help me out-- the way I helped you?" Four years later, Senator Joe wants to run for president, and he knows he will need that fund raising genius, but this time it will be $2 Billion instead of $4 million.

    Hence the cycle begins. I think those who want to do right are twisted into settling for what might help him stay in office. What is he supposed to do? Good media buys the votes, not speeches or smiles or shaking hands. The only way to get good media is to buy it.

    I would love to see them dismantle the campaigns and do it all online. Have forums to discuss issues, and there will be less confusion and finger pointing. It would be impossible to say "My opponent voted to raise taxes..." if in the previous statement the man did not do so.

    Let's just kick them all out of office.
     
  7. CrystalMarie

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    I thank Hilary would be a great candidate for our next president. That would open so many doors for women since we are still fighting for equal rights even in 2014. She is a women that understands the needs of other women.
     
  8. gmckee1985

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    How are we fighting for equal rights? The last time I check women have it great in America. If anything the feminists have taken it too far and that's resulted in a lot of bad things such as the high out of wedlock birth rate. I think people are coming to the realization with each passing day that we need a change in America, and Hillary Clinton is not the person to deliver it.
     
  9. Gelsemium

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    Whether we believe it or not we are still far from reaching equality between sexes, so in that way Clinton could give a step forward I am sure.
     
  10. gmckee1985

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    One thing I'm pretty confident about is the fact that Hillary Clinton is going to have a lot of trouble putting together the Obama coalition that was such a big success for Democrats in 2008 and 2012. She doesn't have the same appeal that he does. And he was only able to get 51% of the vote in his reelection bid. That spells trouble for them, I think. As I don't see the same type of turn out from minorities and young people in 2016.
     

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