GOP Big-wigs Want Trump Banned From GOP Debates

Discussion in 'Politics Discussion' started by Rainman, Jul 16, 2015.

  1. SteakTartare

    SteakTartare Senior Investor

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    ^ This! The establishment 'pubs are at best worthless and irrelevant, at worst nothing more than Dem Lites.

    Though I doubt Trump will get the nod, and my money (both literally and figuratively) is on Cruz, I will say Trump is a breath of fresh air in an otherwise stagnant political environment. If he can shake things up, more power to him.
     
  2. Rainman

    Rainman Senior Investor

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    I'm all for free speech. The Republicans shouldn't try to censor Trump whether they like what he says or not. The fact that Trump is surging in the polls indicates that the issues Trump raises need to be addressed though, obviously, with more tact. Try to push such issues into the background for the sake of PC, the GOP will lose out.
     
  3. baudwalk

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    I don't believe in tact or political correctness. Enough is enough with waving feather dusters and saying "oops, pardon me" if the breeze wafts by another while playing in the flower gardens. Tell it like it is, bring out the hammers and fix things. Giddyup.
     
  4. petesede

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    I love the RINO term. basically if conservatives had their way, there would be a single person, standing all the way to the far right, calling 99.9% of the Republican party ´RINOs´.

    Is it possible that maybe Christie was happy that Obama managed to do the right thing during the Hurricane.. you know, compared to Katrina?

    At times, I really have a feeling that Trump is like the real life version of Stephen Cobert... I am hoping after the election, he does a 2 hour tv special and basically says ´what morons, I can´t believe they listened to that stuff I was spewing´.
     
  5. petesede

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    Let´s be real.. it is July.. nobody is campaigning except Trump, nobody is being followed by the media except Trump.. and if by ´surging´ you mean he is at 18% while Scott Walker is at 15%.. hmm. I would bet most people don´t even know what state Walker is from yet. it is way to early to talk about surging, especially when you are talking about going TO 18%.

    Besides the point, the only reason he is getting media coverage is because the liberal media is pumping him up. The owners of the Republican party want him out, which means pretty soon Fox News is going to start tainting coverage against him the same way they pushed Romney away from running this time.

    It is going to be Bush, and the longer Trump stays around, the harder it will be for Bush to win the presidency.
     
  6. richc3

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    Sometimes I think he follows the idea that any publicity is good publicity. In any case, seems like what's doing is really pushing away the minorities and that in itself is a problem as they need those votes. I find it hard to believe he's actually making any sort of serious run as he seems so out of touch, but perhaps when he comes out with such radical views then it makes the guys next to him look a lot more tolerable.

    I suppose we'll see how this all plays out, but the media is having a field day.
     
  7. petesede

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    The problem for the Republicans is that those radical views are going to play well in Iowa and South Carolina, and they are going to force Bush to go further to the right on immigration than he wants to go, or risk losing those early states. And when he goes too far to the right on immigration, he loses the national election.

    It is a rediculous debate. All this attention they are trying to stir up about a woman killed by an illegal immirgrant.. failing to mention that a white guy blew up Oklahoma city, and what, about 5 white guys in the past decade have walked into black churches and open fired. Anyone can be evil.
     
  8. gmckee1985

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    Jeb Bush isn't going to be the nominee. He'll certainly be in the upper tier, and he'll have a ton of cash. At the end of the day, I think he's one of the only candidates we have that would lose to Hillary Clinton. She has a ton of weaknesses and a ton of baggage to attack. Bush wouldn't be able to do any of that. Because he has many of the same problems and the Bush brand is toxic. He simply cannot win a national election.
     
  9. JR Ewing

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    He never said all Mexicans were rapists, killers, etc.

    I certainly think Trump should choose his words a bit more wisely, and I think his remark about McCain's unquestionable war heroism was stupid, even though McCain insulted him first. He should have given McCain credit for his war record when the moderator baited him with it, then perhaps also praised McCain as a nice guy and family man who he'd previously supported in '08... THEN he should have expressed dissatisfaction with McCain as a politician.

    I voted for McCain in '08, and as a veteran myself, I respect him totally for what he endured during Vietnam. But as a Republican Senator, I think he often falls short and is perhaps only slightly better at standing up to the Obama trainwreck than a typical Dem would currently be.

     
  10. JoshPosh

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    Sounds like he did to me.

    [video=youtube;65ps3ZwH_bE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65ps3ZwH_bE[/video]
     

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