are religious people close-minded

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Amin, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. SteakTartare

    SteakTartare Senior Investor

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    That is really awesome to hear it helped change your life for the better. I admire those that overcome such difficulties. :)

    I'm puzzled by this point. Why would you think the resurrection was true from the Bible alone? As you undoubted know, the text contains a lot of supernatural/unusual beings (angels, demons, giants, dragons, et al.) and events that, at least scientifically speaking, are impossible (e.g., dead rising from the grave, sun standing still, animals talking, the flood account, et al.).
     
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    The problem is that it wasn't a text that changed me, there was something very real that changed me, the text just caused me to consider the possibility. The bible, one can like it or lump it, but I had a very real life changing experience. Not emotional, that's not me, but real and lasting. All I know is that my redeemer lives and if people want to ask me questions about it, I'm happy to share but I admit that it makes no sense from a purely logical point of view. Spock would ridicule me.

    I think faith in things that are spiritual are part of one's perceptual reality. Like when I think my house is too warm and my wife thinks it is too cool and my daughter says that it's just right. Who is right (yeah, yeah, I know, my wife right?). But seriously, feelings of anger cannot be scientifically gauged nor a mother's love and yet we would be foolish to say that they don't exist. Me as a man will never know what it means to be a mom and experience a mother's love for her child but I would be wrong to challenge a mother on that point. So people can claim there is no living Christ today because they cannot prove it in the physical world but I happen to know differently and so will stay with my savior.

    I do wish that I had the red pill of Neo to make things clear to people - but I don't.
     
  3. SteakTartare

    SteakTartare Senior Investor

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    I hear you and I'm not knocking individual experience. I was at one point in my life a deeply, one might say even intensely, spiritual/religious person. So, I "get it" intellectually as well as viscerally. However, that time has past, and reason and logic are now the guiding principals. I'm not sure about Mr. Spock, but Vulcan philosophy has some similarities to Stoicism, which I think of highly. But, I digress. ;)
     
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    I'm sorry your experience was simply religious. If mine had been I am sure that I would no longer be because I actually dislike church and churchy things. I have a real relationship with a very real and living person although in the spiritual realm. Does it sound crazy? Absolutely it does. This is why I am not at all offended when people don't believe me.
     
  5. AtlantaSports

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    You make it sound like religion and logic/reason do not mesh, when in reality, the totally do.
     
  6. evelin

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    Not really close-minded, to be honest. They're just looking for some moral support and that's completely fine with me. Though history has taught us that religion only brings dreadful events and massacres, paradoxically enough. Even today you can see these events happening throughout the world... Now I don't mean to say religion is a bad thing, no. It's just that some people tend to be really extremists.
     
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    It is like a prism, it depends on how you look at it. There are atheists too who are close-minded. Are you not being close minded if you do not believe that there is a higher power called God who created the universe? Scientist say that everything must have come from something but no scientist has ever explained the true origin of the universe. Forget the big-bang theory. Where did that mass gas that created the earth come from? So it just appeared out of nowhere and boom!!! The earth was formed!!! Does that sound close-minded or open minded to you?
     
  8. Jason76

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    Atheists can be as closed minded as religious people and just as preachy. Some of them believe that they are on a mission to eliminate God for the benefit of mankind. My objection to radical athiesm is due to the fact that religion alone isn't the source of the world's problems.
     
  9. SteakTartare

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    What kind of relationship? Did you communicate and, if so, how?

    One of the foundational aspects of reason is not believing a proposition unless there is solid, demonstrable, evidence for the proposition. What evidence does mankind have for a deity, angels, demons, giants, dragons, a very young Earth, a global flood, etc. (all of which are found in the Bible)?
     
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    People who aren't religious can have closed minds. Those who are religious tend to have a set of beliefs that they trust, but depending on how religious they are they can be open to other ideas or theories. There are many people who are prejudiced who have closed minds, and that's based more on ignorance or arrogance. It also depends on what religion they follow, and whether they chose it, or were brought up with it.
     

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