Bernie Sanders

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  1. JR Ewing

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    SteakTartare Senior Investor

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    What's a little $18 Trillion among friends, right, Bernie? Oh and the national debt is now already at $18T and rapidly counting. That works out to $57,174 per man, woman, and child in the country. Or put another way, $154,493 for those who actually pay taxes. At least for now ... as soon as I hit "Post", it will likely be higher. (groan) What a Marxist Muppet.

    Parts of Europe are circling the drain due to unchecked spending, and yet there a lot of folks in this country that want to take the same path. You know, fiscal insanity.
     
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    Saturday Sanders had 9,000 people show up to a rally on the University of Colorado campus in Boulder. We're in Aspen for a few days and the Denver TV stations gave the rally went overboard on the coverage. This week's Democratic debate between a Socialist, a damaged student of Alinsky-Cloward-Piven and a few hangers-on might be amusing. The opining by the lamestreet media could be magnificent. I haven't been paying close attention to news these past few days, but for Biden the debate countdown clock is ticking louder.
     
  4. Alex

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    I have a lot of Facebook friends who do support him, and he is saying things that people want to hear. Now, in Vermont he maybe able to do some of these things, but on a national level it's very different. Vermont is known to be very liberal and I like Vermont and would live there, however, extending these policies across the board will be hard and difficult to manage.

    It's one thing to have policies, but another to have realistic ones that can be enacted. Sanders may understand what the people want, but he won't be able to give it to them.
     
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    Well as the above poster said, it is great to have dreams and say how you will help others, but you have to have realistic plans to be able to change things. The new President whoever he or she may be, can not act unilaterally and has to have some congressional support for these ideas. With the Republican majority in congress, I can tell you, the idea of implementing liberal policies and broad sweeping changes will go over like a lead balloon.
     
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    All the siblings of my husband will be voting next year and their inclination is for a Republican ticket with Donald Trump as their personal choice. There was never a mention of Bernie Sanders so I guess this guy is not that popular in the US. I remember when our current president Aquino ran for president in 2010, his Facebook page earned a million likes in a matter of 1 month. Now, if Sanders can duplicate that number of likes, I guess he is in the running. Otherwise, it is safe to shelve his ambition and look to somewhere else where he can be of help to the nation.
     
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    Socialism isn't a good idea, in my opinion. Hitler made promises such as in this system--where he looked at everything around him full of hate, injustices and enmity in the 1920s-1930s til his death in 1945. For more than a decade now, America should see socialist ideology creeping at our doorstep. U.S. of America must get back on its conservative capitalism-- comprising of successful hard-working generators of economy and money--entrepreneurs-- small and big businesses--employing people to work and earn and generate more money--for their own families and country. U.S Federal government (they should be sacked) should give back the Social Security, $2.6 trillion dollars to the legal citizens of America. What has happened to it, anyway while democrat/liberal Obama and his administration are in place? Drugs must be eradicated. Drug lords and Big Pharma must be locked up in jail. Illegal immigrants must re-apply and the go through the process of being legal immigrants with proper and and documentations into America. Fortify the U.S. military like it has never been before. IMHO
     
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    This is what people must consider when voting; vote for who you like, but will it be a wasted vote? Because Hilary has served in the Cabinet and been the First Lady, she knows how much her hands would be tied, and also Clinton himself had a rough time as Congress opposed most of what he wanted to do. Thus she knows not to make promises that she can't keep or even go there.

    The tactic is to vote for the best person that can win, not always who you like. That is the best strategy.
     
  9. JR Ewing

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    Anything the government gives you, they can take away.

    Once you're dependent upon the government, you're a slave to them.

    There's only so much money out there to "redistribute" at any given time. Once you take away the incentive for everyone to produce and continue growing the economy, we're all doomed. Socialism has proved itself a failure over and over. Sometimes it takes a while, but it always fails eventually.
     
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    He sounds like he cares a lot about people making a decent wage for living, but that in itself worries me he will be cast down. The elite don't want people like that in office, they need us all to be slaves.
     

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