Justice?

Discussion in 'Politics Discussion' started by Rainman, Dec 17, 2015.

  1. Corzhens

    Corzhens Senior Investor

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    I believe that Justice is not 100% here on earth but still justice often prevails. However, I also believe in isolated cases where the criminal who was caught red-handed committing the crime still would get away with his deed. The law is not fool proof and there are so many criminals on the loose because of that. In this world ruled by humans, there will always be injustice because humans have the frailty of committing inaccuracies themselves. Take the case of a boxing match where the outcome is decided by the 3 judges. Most often than not there is something wrong in their decision.
     
  2. L_B

    L_B Well-Known Member

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    Money does talk and we have seen that time and time again. There is no way anyone who wasn't rich would have gotten away with that. Her family clearly didn't have the money he did. I have seen cases where rich people have gotten away with murder. It isn't right.
     
  3. Thejamal

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    Kind of a poor write-up to really make any sort of determination on what really happened. Still, not a surprising result for a man with money; funny how it often works out in these ways eh?

    There's also a lot of context we aren't getting here as I seriously doubt that "accidentally tripped and penetrated her" was his main defense. I'm not advocating for the guy in the slightest, I'm just frustrated by the lack of facts in the article.
     
  4. Alex

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    The problem with this story is that it seems sensationalized. In another article I read, the girl said she went to the bedroom to wake up her friend who had sex with him, but she couldn't wake her up and thought she was dead. So where was this girl as a witness? She's been paid off as apparently they had known each other for several months. No one goes back to a man's place at 4 a.m. and doesn't expect anything to happen.

    Maybe the girl was naive, but they say a teenager, but she is 18 years old, and over the age of consent. I think there was a lack of proof here rather than anything else, as he admits sex did happen. I'm sorry but if someone offers to give you a lift home and you choose to go back to their place, what message are you sending out already? She should have just asked to get dropped off at home.
     
  5. Rainman

    Rainman Senior Investor

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    It's possible the man may not have raped the girl but let's not forget that it's not the first time a Muslim is getting away with rape. What of the Rotherham scandal which was worse than this?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089

    Over 1400 girls raped by Muslims gangs and no action taken? Muslims DO get special treatment.
     
  6. Alex

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    This was an outrage and still in the UK it's talked about. It did lead to a whole new department, but it wasn't all Muslims I believe. There was a recent case where a gang of Muslims did groom some girls for years, and they were convicted. It does appear Muslim men can have double standards and, sadly the law is about proof.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...six-hours-including-father-schoolboy-son.html
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30152240
     
  7. Susimi

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    The whole Rotherham scandal makes me sick to the stomach. It was allowed to continue mainly because no-body wanted to risk being labelled a racist and thus jeopardising their career. It also did not help that some of the "customers" were people in authority, like MP's.

    One quote from one girl who was interviewed really stuck with me. She stated something like "getting rapped by Muslims is part of growing up here".
     
  8. pwarbi

    pwarbi Senior Investor

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    In the UK, more and more of these cases are coming in to the news now, and it seems to be a problem that predominantly in the north of England.

    Some north west towns have also taken grooming gangs to court and got convictions but the sad reality is, for all the ones convicted, there's more that haven't been caught and we don't know just how bad the problem is.
     
  9. Alex

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    If this is a cultural issue as well, then surely those who immigrate to the UK need to re-evaluate their customs? May don't and they try to live in the UK under UK laws and act as if they don't matter. The problem is it does need to be highlighted, and these people need to adapt to the western laws. Yes, maybe Muslim men do treat women badly, but whereas in their home country it is tolerated, in the UK and western countries it isn't. It's up to the parents to 'westernize' their children, otherwise why bother leaving the home country (money and prospects aside), because they need to realize they can't have it all.
     
  10. evelin

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    I believe we're only getting a little part of the story here. I can't draw a conclusion personally. Just like someone said above, there might be other factors included in the whole equation... at least I hope so!
     

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