Sentenced to 263 years

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  1. Alex

    Alex Senior Investor

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    Daniel Holtzclaw, a former Oklahoma cop has been sentenced for 263 years for the rapes of women he stopped on the street. He targeted black women that were not likely to come forward (drug users and prostitutes), but a few brave ones did.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35376597

    What I wonder is why he was by himself? Don't most have partners? I guess with cuts that maybe a reason, but many of these incidents involving police committing crimes is when the officer is alone.

    As he is only 29, he will never be freed by the looks of things and he has ruined his own life by an abuse of power.
     
  2. pwarbi

    pwarbi Senior Investor

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    What I'm more concerned about us the sentence ges been given. There's no doubt that he won't ever be freed, so is it right that the taxpayer has to keep in jail for the rest of his life?

    For crimes such as the ones he's committed I think he should be hung anyway but surely there's a better way of punishing him, that isn't going to cost $30,000 a year to keep him locked up?
     
  3. L_B

    L_B Well-Known Member

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    I tend to agree with your pwardi. He will never be outside of the walls of a prison again and he is only 29 years old. If he doesn't kill himself first he could live a long life at the expense of the tax payers. I wonder why too he was left to parole the streets alone without a partner especially in a big city. If you was here in Canada he would never have gotten a sentence like that even though he deserves it. He would have been out walking the streets again in less then 25 years.
     
  4. Susimi

    Susimi Senior Investor

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    I don't think it's too unusual that he was on his own. I've often come across or seen cops out on patrol on their own and to be honest had quite a nice with some of them when I've been going out on walks.

    The sentence seems a little stupid to me. 263 years. Why not just say life in prison with no chance of parole?
     
  5. baudwalk

    baudwalk Senior Investor

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the type of sentence and length thereof wasn't dictated by state legislative-created mandatory sentencing requrements for the type of crimes charged. The judge might not have any discretionary wiggle room.
     
  6. phoenix2015

    phoenix2015 Well-Known Member

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    I have never understood why courts give sentences like 263 years. There is no possible way he can live that long. Why not just say life in prison without parole. As for this guy, oh man, being a police officer in a US prison is not going to fun, especially for taking advantage of those he was supposed to be protecting. Nope, I don't predict many smiles in his future.
     
  7. eddiemoneys

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    There's more than a few things not right about this story. He should
    have had a partner, and there should have been a suspicion at some point
    long before the confessions. 263 years is the sentence, but he may only
    end up serving a fraction of that before being released, and he will be
    on the taxpayer's dime in prison until or if that happens. The thing
    that strikes me as odd here are the numerical references in the story.
    It's very cult-like in the number structure, which is often a sign of a
    false flag done for another reason. Lastly, I remember a black woman
    intentionally accusing a La Crosse team of rape, which later turned out
    to be a racist attack against the white men in favor of the prosecutor.
    The false accuser of rape was charged, and the prosecutor lost their job
    and was disbarred because of it. I get the feeling that is possibly
    this way. It's very seldom that black men rape black women if given the
    choice, so it is even more odd and unusual that an asian man would do
    so. There are so many things wrong with this story that it just doesn't
    seem legit to me at all.
     
  8. baudwalk

    baudwalk Senior Investor

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    Did you read the BBC story and the other comments? No mention of a partner -- and not unusual to be one-man patrols even in the largest cities (the Philadelphia cop ambushed 2 weeks ago by a self-declared IS member) -- and no mention of the judge's discretion (was thrre a possibility of mandatory sentencing guidelines?)
     
  9. pwarbi

    pwarbi Senior Investor

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    There's no point dwelling on the story though and saying this should have happened and that should have happened. The only think people can do is to try and learn lessons from situations like these and hope that the same things won't happen again in the future.
     
  10. Alex

    Alex Senior Investor

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    The point is the police should use these incidents to learn how to prevent them again. While it is more common to have single police on the beat these days, is that safe for the people or the police? The Ferguson riots came about because an officer was alone and had to call for back up.

    While they wish to save money the long term consequences seem to outweigh the financial cuts. It makes you wonder how many other corrupt activities are going on because there is no partner to report them or to suspect activity?
     

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