On Suicide and The Afterlife

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  1. Rainman

    Rainman Senior Investor

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    What do you think happens to people who commit suicide once they cross over into the spirit realm? Does eternal damnation await them? Do they get reincarnated so they can deal with the issues they couldn't in their previous lives? Do they get stuck on earth forever as ghosts?

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  2. Corzhens

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    Committing suicide is against the rules of God, that is if you believe that there is God. Taking your life is like refusing to eat. There is a saying here that if you deny the food then the food might deny you. So if you cut off your life then what if life would cut you off? My point is if there is life after death then you have committed something grave by intervening with the natural course of your life and advancing your schedule to die so maybe you will receive some sort of punishment.
     
  3. Alex

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    People do commit suicide and to try to blame them is wrong and isn't very Christian. If you have ever met people who have tried to kill themselves, or relatives of people who have you would take a different perspective.

    I feel when they pass they go on to be healed and whatever issue that occurred is addressed. They can return to face it in another incarnation or not if they wish. Take this nine-year old who hanged himself as he was being bullied, did he understand what he was doing, and can you say he sinned? If anything he needed more empathy and understanding.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2691875/Boy-9-hanged-sent-room-arguing-younger-brother.html
     
  4. manoharb

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    For me, Suicide and Samadhi, both are 2 different things. Suicide never can't be a part of spiritualism. In India, many prophets, saints,monks like Buddha, Mahaveer, Dnyaneshwara, Navnathas etc. took Samadhi. They left their body by own choice. still in India, In Jainism, there is 1 tradition 'Santhara'. Man or woman keep fast and leave body happily without expectation of any reward after death.

    For Suicide, pressure , suffocation etc. required. But Samadhi is real different. For Samadhi, Peace of mind, Satisfaction etc. required. In my previous comment, I wrote about Buddhist Philosophy. When there is nothing to win, They give up their Ego and This Body is mine, This is my mind. These are last egos of Human. 8 types of Egos exist inside human. Giving up last ego of Body and mind or Gender is called as Samadhi. For Samadhi, there is no reward, because, there is no ego, to receive reward.

    Suicide is sign of self hatred and Samadhi is sign of ultimate truth. Truth is, I'm staying inside my body. My Body and me both never can be same. This word 'My' represent Ego and where is Ego, truth can't exist there.

    God-Evil, Men-Women, Light-Darkness etc. everything based on number 2 or 'Dwaita' Principle.Ego represent Dwaita principle. 'Adwaita' believes there is only Truth and With Ego,Greed, Lust etc. we can never become 1 with truth.

    Dnyata-Dneya-Dnyana this relationship is inseparable. Human is Dnyata or seeker of Truth, Dneya is a purpose or a way of finding answer of question 'Who I am ?' and Dnyana or Knowledge is destiny.

    4 stages of 'Dnyana-Yoga',
    1st. Tatwamasi , In which you accept existence of God.
    2nd. Aham Brahmasmi, means I'm the ultimate truth, but still ego of body and mind exist
    3rd. Ayamatama Brahmam , I'm immortal is the truth, but still ego of soul exist
    4th. and last stage, Pradnyanam Brahmam, Knowledge-Truth and myself all are 1.

    these are not chanting mantras, these are 4 stages of human. in first 3 stages, directly or indirectly, God believer or Atheist involved all time in life. last stage only prophets,monks, saints achieved by worships.

    so Suicide is different, It has no connection with Samadhi. For Suicide, there is a reward. In Samadhi, there is no reward, because, there is no 2nd. person or God, because, word 'God' can't exist without word 'follower'. Samadhi means ending difference in 2 opposite words. Word 'God' have no life without word Ego. who do suicide, he dies with Ego and who took samadhi, he freed himself from all Egos.
     
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    I think both Corzhens and Alex have a point. I grew up in a society where most people believe that committing suicide is wrong. I also believe that ending one's life is not a choice that we must make because life is still a gift no matter what the odds are. However, we shouldn't judge the people who commit suicide because they have also been through a lot just like what the 9-year-old boy who was bullied. It is a sin to commit suicide but I think they also deserve to be forgiven.
     
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    Suicide is the cause of demonic warfare winning in a person's life. The bible says no murderer has eternal life abiding in them. So people who commit suicide, go to hell sadly.
     
  8. Alex

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    Who is to say 'hell' exists? I actually think 'hell' is living on earth. No one can prove or disprove this, but does this kind of thinking help the mother of the nine-year old who killed himself because he was being bullied? Would you really go up to the child's family and tell them he is in hell?

    My belief is there are different planes in the Spirit realm, and there is a particular one where those who took their own lives go to, and also one where people were murdered too. Their souls need a different type of healing, and mediums that have contacted those who committed suicide have been able to pass on messages, and mediums don't channel 'hell'.
     
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    Ashes to ashes... dust to dust... all mighty dollar says "In God We Trust"...
     
  10. crimsonghost747

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    It depends on your view of the afterlife. And kinda relating to that, your religion.
    I don't think there is an afterlife, so the suiciders turn to dust just like everyone else.
     

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