Religion vs Violence

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Rainman, Mar 1, 2016.

  1. Rosyrain

    Rosyrain Senior Investor

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    People have strong opinions when it comes to religion, and everyone thinks they are right about what they believe. When people think that they have the backing of God, they can be led to do the unthinkable, even if what they are doing is actually wrong in the eyes of their God or religious believe. Religion can actually bring out the worst in people.
     
  2. remnant

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    In any society, there will always be the indifferent, moderates and extremists. The interesting thing is that one night be an extremist with regard to a particular issue and be an extremist with regard to another. Faith is unquestioning and unqualified belief in an all powerful unseen deity who doesn't defend Himself or retaliate on our human terms and urgency seemingly creating a vacuum these mortals feel disproportionately aggrieved and compelled to fill.
     
  3. manoharb

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    Why Muslims got screwed worldwide ? answer of this, I think, is in this famous "political' quote.

    A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first. : Arya Chanakya

    Most Muslims countries have dictators and citizens are too honest to dictators (half of them US killed already ) and Islam says,sorry,not Islam. In true words, their religious masters says, any Muslim can't change his religion according to his belief . If anybody changed religion, he will get punishment by laws of Hypocrite 'Religious masters' or Mullah, Moulavis etc.

    according to my study of history, country or community which opened gates for all religions equally or respected individual beliefs and personal decisions of their society with neutral mindset, always have great future.

    so my honest opinion is, Islamic countries should respect 'democracy' and allow diversity, not conversion or any market for other religions. It will not harm Islam anywhere, It will harm only fake religious masters who want to tame muslims as their slaves according to their self beliefs and conditions. It will harm only fake followers of 'Islam' , who accepted Islam to take revenge against any community or using Islam for personal agenda. This way, fake religious masters and fake followers who are promoting terrorism will get neutralized automatically and then Islam will have only 'True' followers or moral supporters.

    according to philosophy, all Abrahamic religions based on ' Shaivism' philosophy and Atheism,Buddhism, Jainism based on 'Vaishnav' philosophy.

    ( demolition of any religion in world is harmful for humans and humanity, so hatred for any religion can't bring good future to us, our family and our next generation also and there are some people who use religion for wealth, woman etc.demolition of these gangsters, dictators etc. required, that's the reason many women complains all religions are male-dominated, in fact, that's not truth. God never make difference in between man-woman, so better human who support humanity, think about how to save Islam. If Islam saved, terrorism will get demolished automatically )


     
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  4. djordjem87

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    I guess stupidity. I cannot imagine smart people fighting. A smart man from Serbia, a well known scholar, poet, writer and ambassador of Serbia, Jovan Ducic once wrote, 'A smart man is always a coward and a hero is a stupid one'. To elaborate this further he wrote that poets even when they had to go to wars, wrote and never played heroes. They would come back alive mostly to retell everything.
    It is very ignorant to fight because every cause is a lost cause. Religion should be something that brings peace and what we do is simply wrong.
     
  5. briannagodess

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    Why do you think people have to fight, at times even murder in the name of their religion even if their holy writs don't allow them to do so?

    For me, people interpret religious teachings differently. And that's where the conflicts start. Like for the extremists, they tend to take everything from their religion literally. And we just cannot do that because the scenarios in the book must be different from the scenarios right now.

    Do they expect greater rewards afterwards?

    Well, maybe they do expect greater rewards. Like some extremists, they assume that mercy killings, even of themselves, will earn them a greater place in the after life. Or maybe the murder of hundreds is better than having chaos within the community. They think that those are rewards but instead, they don't realise that harming others in itself isn't a good thing.
     
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  6. RavenLily

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    Religions have always been a source of violence and it's only going to continue. It seems that every religion thinks they are the right one and they'll go as far as to kill others who don't believe in the same thing. I am Wiccan personally and I still get slack for it from Christians and other religions. They tell me I'm going to hell for not believing in their God, but I just let it roll off of my back like water on a duck. Religion is going to cause more problems than it will solve. I'm a huge believer in letting people believe what they want to believe. The truth of the matter is, that we're only going to know which is right when we pass on. tha
     
  7. RavenLily

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    I do agree with the previous poster's comment about it being just plain stupidity. It is just stupid for people to kill others over their beliefs. I don't know if they expect greater rewards or what because I am not them, but I do know that some religions believe they will reap more rewards in the long run. Christians believe they'll spend eternity in a paradise of sorts, whereas the others believe they'll get virgins etc. It's a huge issue that is sure to continue to cause problems and debate for years to come.
     
  8. artyarson

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    Religion had been nothing but violence since day one to, let's say, the ending of Middle Ages era. However, thank God, the whole Christianity thing has gone way safer. The situation with Islam is not that good, unfortunately. While the religion itself is kind of peaceful and resembles Christianity, there are a lot of misinterpretations that fuel violence.
     
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  9. xTinx

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    Religious violence is usually triggered by the wrong perception and executed by worshippers with narrow minds and closed hearts. I am sure the original founders of such religions never advocated for violence. Over the years, though, after centuries of changing leadership and practices, perceptions have likewise changed.

    If your religious leaders don't advocate for peace and twist passages to serve their own ends, then you will probably get the same type of followers. If the followers are blind and never question their leaders and how they interpret scriptures, then religious violence is bound to happen.

    I won't blame the Bible or the Quran. I might as well charge the blame on people of power and influence who willfully misinterpret passages for selfish reasons.
     
  10. manoharb

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    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-slogan-in-Hyderabad/articleshow/51465910.cms

    read this, 1 religious fatwa.

    The fatwa, which is an Islamic cleric's jurisprudential opinion, came after Syed Ghulam Samdani Ali Quadri, a religious figure from the Old City, approached the seminary for an answer three days ago.[/COLOR]



    Explaining the rationale behind the ruling, Mufti Azeemuddin, who heads the fatwa centre of the seminary, wrote that according to the principles of reason, only a human gives birth to a human and treating the "land of bharat" as a mother is against "reason".



    "The mother of a human is human. No piece of land and no animal and no other object gives birth to humans," an excerpt from the fatwa reads. The seminary said that those who wish to treat the "land of Bharat as their mother, then this is the person's individual religious belief and that the person cannot force others (to believe in this)."

    The Mufti concluded by writing that "the Muslims of Bharat love the country."

    my question is, Human give birth to humans that's right, but Humans together give birth to culture and its culture which keeps them united as a family. word Bharat Mata or 'mother India' represent any religion ? 1side, such clerics push Religious fatwas and condems Indian culture. India is our motherland it can't be religious belief, because, Hinduism is a culture , not religion.

    This way, Islamic Clerics impose their religion on 1 family and when we defend our country, start barking, Hindus are terrorists. If you love India, then don't involve and impose religion. word 'Mother India' represent culture, nation, family etc. not any particular religion. We tolerated more than enough. now these animals crossing their limits. If you condemn culture of 1 country, Tomorrow India will have only animals like you. If after that, any country butchered Indians. I will not cry as a Indian.I will not blame that country for killing Indians. because, then we deserve that.
     
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