How to profit from biosphere destruction

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  1. ScooterBrandon

    ScooterBrandon Senior Investor

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    Good research!
    Thanks for the contributions.
    Nestle is another huge player in the water market.
    But like you said it's such a small portion of the overall business.
    You can try to trade commodity futures, but I would be afraid of forgetting to sell them and having someone drive an oil truck up to my house and demand payment....
     
  2. crimsonghost747

    crimsonghost747 Senior Investor

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    That is also a major thing that people keep forgetting. It's HARD to build a profitable nuclear reactor nowadays (at least in the western countries) simply because the costs related to building it are phenomenal. So it's really an investment that needs to run for decades. And with things such as energy efficiency, efficiency in solar and other renewabled increasing (and them becoming easier to use. Ie smaller devices that can be installed pretty much anywhere) many many companies are actually guessing that the price of electricity will decrease in the long run.
     
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    Correct - you should really look up thorium reactors though! Amazing technology, very safe, insane amounts of it all around... The risk just isn't there like others...but then again, who knows what was in room 3327? We might not have ever needed that, but secrets kept are secrets still ;)
     
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    Speculative technology stocks are big in this sector. But they're usually high-risk too, so it depends on what your investment stratSpegy looks like. And unless you have some expertise in the field, it can be a bit hit-and-miss to judge which companies are most likely to do well overall, too.
     
  5. Steve Dawson

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    If the Worlds population keeps on growing, along with the depletion of natural resources, then there will have to be changes to peoples dietary habits in the future, otherwise poverty will grow exponentially. There were several media reports a few years ago about a common foodstuff in South-East Asia and various Third-World countries being insects. Obviously its going to take a lot for developed Western nations to start eating bugs, but there are a lot of second World nations that are already feeling the pinch where such habits may have to be encouraged to feed the populace in the not too distant future. It sounds crazy, but it might be a good time to start looking into insect farms, the overheads and initial set-up costs should be incredibly low.
     
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    What we place in the ground with regard to contaminants never seems to stay there. When it comes to nuclear energy, the prospect from the outset seems ideal, but the reality is that it's every way just as risky as depleting traditional resources and in some cases more long-lasting than that if it's a resource for which the Earth can restore on its own.

    Yes, there are some environments which thrive and adapt to the radiation and make a comeback from it, but humans are supposed to be smarter than placing themselves that close to impending doom and destruction just to make a few bucks. Aren't they?

    If we pulled out all the stops on everything from wind and solar to geothermal energy production, there is a lot more that we could do than we are doing today to ensure our reliance upon nuclear energy on behalf of sustaining the masses would not be as necessary and imperative as they are today. I understand and agree that the population is too high, but I also see that dangerous methods to control and reduce it are also being performed in addition to the means to handle their needs not being done to the extent that they could reasonably.

    If there's a dollar to be made, there is always going to be a corrupt person somewhere who will try to make it at the expense of one person or everyone without realizing or caring about the consequences. Fortunately, there are always at least one or more people there to stop them, stay a step ahead, or figure out a way for them to make their dollar without destroying everything completely yet.

    I see it happening, and I think it's disgusting. But you know, they would be doing this whether we were here and opposed it or not. And there will always be someone who benefits from it that makes excuses for it on their behalf. The best we can do I guess is to neutralize it and try to find alternative ways that we and they can make money without destroying more of our world and environment than we have already.
     
  7. crimsonghost747

    crimsonghost747 Senior Investor

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    The problem is that the more prominent forms of renewables, wind and solar, are intermittent sources of energy. Ie. they produce a variable amount of energy based on factors that we cannot control. And that alone makes them a bad fit for modern systems.

    To provide an area with electricity you need. A) something that can steadily produce X amount 24/7/365. = base load power plant. and B) something that is both fast and cheap to turn on/off when required = peaking power plant. That's it. And as you can see, intermittent sources don't really fit into either category. A great example of a simple and functioning system would be A = nuclear and B = hydro. The nuclear does the majority of the work 24/7/365 and the hydroelectric dams can produce during peak hour and be closed when they are not required. A powersource that does what it wants is not really needed in this system unless we find ways to store electricity more efficiently.

    That being said, I am a huge fan of solar power. But right now the main uses really are as an alternative to turning on those peak power plants. (natural gas in a lot of cases) That peak power plant still needs to exist as a backup but solar electricity can reduce the time that we need to keep that peak power plant running. But solar is not an option for replacing base load plants unless we really take a HUUUGE step forward in the technology that we use to store electricity.
     
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  8. Lynk

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    Long term, I am somewhat more optimistic than most of you on this thread. Clean energy is becoming a huge industry. There is more demand than ever for lower energy technology like LED lighting and other alternatives. There is a lot of work continuing to develop cleaner technologies for cars and other transportation.

    I think a smart investor who can find quality companies leading these technologies could profit! If you want to be conscientious in your investing, it's completely possible. I think a lot of people are starting to adopt this philosophy and we will see these industries continue to grow.
     
  9. remnant

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    The best way one can profit from the ongoing destruction of the biosphere is through investing in green stocks. There are emerging companies dealing with green stocks listing in the stock exchange in the renewable energy sector. Alternative environmental safety products which are organic in nature are also gaining traction as people become conscious of the impact of environmental degradation with regard to food security, health and global warming.
     

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