EU Stay campaigners shirnk lead after Brussels attack

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  1. Corzhens

    Corzhens Senior Investor

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    I hope what happened in Brussels will be like that in Paris. Sentiments and emotions were high such that even Facebook profiles were changed to the color of Paris. But after a month, nothing is heard of and the Paris attack was forgotten. Now it is the turn of Brussels and if the authorities will not do something then it will be a way of life for us peace-loving people to experience attacks in crowded places once in a while. And the next city as target is always a guessing game for the authorities. Maybe ISIS has to be annihilated right now.
     
  2. Scooby Snack

    Scooby Snack Well-Known Member

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    The Brits were discussing a "Brexit" long before the attacks, but at the moment I think many people are rightly concerned about keeping their own borders safe, and not having to be forced to follow in the footsteps of countries like Germany.
     
  3. pwarbi

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    Another issue I think regarding the UK leaving the EU, is what's happening with Turkey at the moment. The EU countries are still looking at giving a lot of money to Turkey and asking them to take charge of the refugee situation and in return, aswell as the money, they'll get one step closer to joining the EU.

    That won't happen all of a sudden, but it will mean Turkish citizens will have the right to travel across Europe from country to country virtually without being checked. I'm in the UK, and that worries me a lot that a Muslim country, however unradical it says it is, will be allowed that amount of freedom.
     
  4. erook7878

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    I haven't followed the EU thing at all. What are the pros and cons of staying or leaving the EU. I always just mindlessly viewed being part of the EU as the better option, just for solidarity.
     
  5. Alex

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    Here is one of the issues, people either don't understand or don't care because they don't think it affects them. Most people are focusing on the economic aspects, but the main principles are the laws. As an EU member one must abide by the laws of the EU courts even if they are conflict with domestic laws, and many (myself) consider this wrong, as the EU courts were not elected to make laws for the country. What this does is prevent a country from enacting their own laws, tying the hands of the legal systems in each country. How can a country run when they are powerless to make their own laws?
     
  6. Rainman

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    Going off on a tangent here but here's something interesting:

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics...u-migrants-arron-banks?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
    It doesn't surprise me. The politicians don't really care whether the UK leaves or stays in the EU. What of the issues? Well the issues affect the average Joe's not the wealthy politicians. Even Farage who claims to be poor earns over $155,000 a year.
     
  7. kgord

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    Most Brits, I think are in favor of staying in the EU, but maybe the terrorist attacks will make them think twice. I think we will never really know what the majority of the people are thinking until the vote actually transpires. It is just one of the things that we will be wondering about. I think it is hard to say how the boat will really come down. It is a wait and see attitude.
     
  8. Alex

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    First of all being British never believe what The Guardian says as it is a left wing (hard) paper that always twists things and lies. I don't read it and while I try not to judge, I would never date a Guardian reader.

    The country is divided between those who understand the implications of leaving and the majority that haven't a clue. Trying to educate the masses in a short space of time is impossible, and trying to simplify it isn't easy. The crux is people are tired on the EU, but there is too much scaremongering going on where they say people will lose their jobs. That has been happening being in the EU. Reduce the potential workforce by preventing the other 27 countries coming to work, then there will be more jobs available. Simple really, but businesses want cheap labor and people who will work for less than the minimum wage under the table.
     
  9. petesede

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    That about sums up the majority of voting in the world. People vote with emotions even if they do not spend 5 minutes trying to think about the issue or the repercussions of their vote. I remember watching interviews with Greek voters last summer when they were voting on accepting the offer from the EU.. and almost all of them were just voting pure ´in the moment´ emotions without even attempting to think about the long term issues that would be caused by it.

    The same is true of the Brexit people, it is just a gut reaction.

    Of course we have ´build the wall´ and ´ban all muslims´ as the GOP front-runner, which is basically the same thing..
     

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