Is man created from dust? Or evolved from a monkey?

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  1. UnslaadKrosis

    UnslaadKrosis Active Member

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    I completely agree with you. But maybe leave the musicians out? (Not Miley Cyrus or Justin Beiber, mind you. More like the Mozart ones). Historically, music and literature have had a massive influence on scientific thinking, research, and discoveries. That's why almost all of the great minds of humankind have had some connections to music, literature, or both.

    But +9000 on the actors. They get celebrated for doing things that are pretty ambiguous, at best. And the armored-hand-egg 'players' (the game's not even football!)
     
  2. anorexorcist

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    I come from a really religious background, my father is catholic and I'm his agnostic son, lol. And one day when we were in church I asked him if he believed in evolution theory or if he believed that God just created us and he told me that there were certain things that religion can't explain, and if it did, most of the time didn't really make sense just as the theory that God just created us, and I find that perspective really interesting, I believe in evolution theory by the way.
     
  3. SteakTartare

    SteakTartare Senior Investor

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    Scientifically speaking, neither. The dust one is a religious, not scientific claim. It is a matter of faith and nothing else. And we didn't "evolve from a monkey"; we share a common ancestor with modern African apes. That is a myth regarding evolution that just can't seem to go away.
     
  4. crimsonghost747

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    You are grouping together music and literature though, and I do agree that literature has had a big effect on how we see the world. Music, not so much.
    And in the end when that person (the original sentence wasn't mine, it was a quote) said musicians he did probably mean the likes of Bieber and Kanye West etc, since you probably won't be going out to a theater and seeing the whole placed filled with 12 year olds who went to listen to Mozart. Nor will you see masses of 12 year olds following these old, brilliant musicians in facebook, buying t-shirts with their names etc. It's mostly this modern crap.
    And while people who are older will pretty much automatically switch to a bit more... should I say advanced form of music, the point of that whole quote was that children need to be inspired. Because that is where the great minds come from. That 40 year old guy working in an office job isn't going to quit his job, go back to school, study something like physics for 10 years and become a professor who starts his own research at the University where he studied and discovers something amazing. That just doesn't happen.
     
  5. explorerx7

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    Trying to validate these theories is like a never ending saga.We would be trying to qualify assumptions for which there is hardly any real proof. Therefore, I am not going to lose any sleep over trying to prove which assumption is right or wrong. Knowing which is true will not have any significant effect on my life anyway.
     
  6. erook7878

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    If I remember correctly, scientists are fairly certain modern humans(homo sapiens) evolved from a previous hominid homo erectus(?). You would have to go way back, millions of years, through the hominid lineage to find the "common ancestor" between us and our closest living relative, the chimpanzee. That common ancestor was likely a monkey like animal. There's mountains of evidence ranging from fossil evidence to DNA analysis that shows this to be true.
     
  7. djordjem87

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    Who can really tell? It is more probable that we developed from something that is alive, like monkeys or some prehistoric organism but I have seen some scientist, evolutionist, meddling with atomic structures and going for some very cool conclusions like that one where he discovered that atoms are able to create life without being a part of a living cell. They just need time and it is because they have a natural habit of developing. Now, I paraphrased things I remembered and if you find something like this on you tube you should check it out.
     
  8. explorerx7

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    I prefer not to subscribe to any of these assumptions. It's evident that there are always people who are trying come up with some of their own findings of how humans came into existence, however, the evidence that they supply hardly backs up their assumptions. My thinking is to leave those theories alone because I doubt if anyone will ever be able to really find out how humans came into existence.

    Those who believe that we evolved from monkeys, how can they be sure that monkeys existed before humans?
     
  9. TheApollonian

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    Eh. We evolved from single cell organisms over thousands of years then became what we are now. Monkeys aren't our ancestors they are our cousins and they're called primates. We couldn't evolve from dust because it's not possible for inorganic matter to produce life-- maybe add a little water in there and you might be able to see micro-organisms after a few days.
     

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