AFTERLIFE - DISCUSSION

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Maple Archgate, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. Maple Archgate

    Maple Archgate Member

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    O.K let me just put this first --- YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE, I am not a religion basher, far from it.

    Just a question, why does the thought of 'nothingness' after death scare people so much? I mean, we basically experience 'nothingness' after we have dreamt when we first go into DEEP sleep, that's why the time seems to go fast when we sleep, because we are unconscious, meaning we can not touch, taste , see, hear or smell anything.
    To be quite honest, I think that this ultimate fate would be quite peaceful as you are totally unaware of any pain, stress or mistreatment. It would also mean you would 'forget' you ever even existed.
    Your Thoughts? fire away:confused::confused:
     
  2. Rainman

    Rainman Senior Investor

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    There's no way any living person can prove that there is an afterlife or nothingness when someone dies. Fact though is there is something which keeps humans alive — call it the life force if you please. It's energy. Sort of. Question we should be asking is when matter [the body] which is animated by the energy [the life force] dies where does this energy go? What is it transformed into?
     
  3. anorexorcist

    anorexorcist Well-Known Member

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    As you've said, the idea of nothingness it's terrifying for me, all my hopes, dreams and the few things that I've made and the world as I knew it, disappears just like that. I like to think that there's and after life and that maybe I'm going to wake up in another world to live another life, but I don't think that's possible. I think that after death comes nothingness, no matter how scary that sounds.
     
  4. manoharb

    manoharb Senior Investor

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    Reason of Pain, stress,mistreatment etc. all such things exist in word 'ego'. If 1 man have ego of Gender when he will see any attractive woman somewhere pain starts inside his body. then he had 3 choices 1st.best by knowledge, by controlling emotions understand gender is also 1 illusion of mind ,inside all are same by this way he can freed himself from that pain. knowledge is a way of freedom.
    2nd. normal he will go near that woman, try to convince her if she said no he will walk away and he will try to find another way to release pain inside himself. if she said yes, when he will not feel pain inside himself because of her. he will leave her.
    3rd. worst he will try to force that woman against her wish.

    so Ego is main reason of everything but spirit which exist inside us, in form of knowledge,experience etc. always try to defeat ego and try to find relief from ego or pain,stress,mistreatment etc. If i defeated my ego, will sense of gender,position,name,caste,religion,traditions etc. exist inside me ? no. that's what called in Yoga as 'Nirviakalpa Samadhi'. Sleep is lowest form of Samadhi. Spirit inside ourselves we freed from ego and then spirit inside body and holy spirit both became 1 word. means become 1 with God.This spiritual level described in all religions by different words like Christ,Paigambara,Sai, Buddha, Tathagata, Siddha etc.

    until there is a pain, there is an ego and until there is an ego, there is always optimism or illusion of afterlife.
     
  5. Alex

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    Whether there is an afterlife or not is for each of us to discover in our own way. I know there is, but those are my experiences and not for others. One can view existence as eternal or linear and the fact one questions this indicates that they do believe it maybe eternal. If you consider what you do each day, some days are filled with 'nothingness' and other days are filled with material obligations that humanity has created. For some that is nothingness.
     
  6. djordjem87

    djordjem87 Well-Known Member

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    That is not correct because nothingness means we wouldn't be aware of it. We just stop to exist from the time line. Our conscious mind is dead and it is not just black or nothingness at all. It simply Isn't. When I say isn't I do not refer to the previous sentence but I mean in general. We are not. It isn't and similar strange sounding statements. Like in the Essay on Man by Alexander Pope. Whatever IS, is RIGHT. This is something that semantics and grammar in general find very confusing but I believe the fact we don't really understand it is what scares us.
     
  7. briannagodess

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    I think we fear the afterlife because there's this uncertainty to it. Not because we know there's a heaven of maybe we believe that there's no heaven. Just the fact that we don't really know what happens after we die, that can be terrifying. And even with the millions of deaths everyday, we still have no idea what really happens. We know that the body decays but what happens to our soul? Do we simply cease to exist? Do we get reincarnated?

    That's the thing with death, it's full of questions and no answers. Then there's that question of whether I have lived my life well. Is that enough already to lead me to the eternal life? Or maybe be reincarnated to a better life?
     
  8. obliviousme

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    It's different when we sleep because that's simply part of being human and we are unconscious so we're not aware that we were in the realm of 'nothingness' during that time. However thinking about death and what's head of us after that, is beyond scary. I haven't pondered this enough so I'm not certain if i believe in after life or not. Whatever it is that's waiting for us after death is for us to know.
     
  9. TheApollonian

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    For me the idea of nothingness and oblivion is more comforting than heaven, hell, shangri-la or valhalla. When I've come to the end of my life I want to die I've had enough I want to stay dead and unconscious and be one with the Earth.
     

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