Is the US wrong for getting involved in global issues?

Discussion in 'Politics Discussion' started by alexisfinch24, Jun 16, 2014.

  1. Casper

    Casper Well-Known Member

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    Yes I did. It was a bit vague but got most of the salient points. Perhaps when I responded, I should have said "The NYT says there is no evidence 'the DPR issued the flyer' and they vehemently denied it was them'.

    Unless I missed something?

    My point still stands that such an influential politician and 'diplomat', should not be touting unverified accusations as defacto truth when it is not. WMD's anyone?

    Have you seen the 'moderate force' that is being used against civilians and supported by the U.S government? All the homes, hospitals, schools destroyed. All the refugee buses fired on and civilians inc children and press who have been killed?

    Strange how it is a 'terrible war crime' when Assad bombs foreign backed terrorist strongholds and 'a highly restrained anti terrorist operation', when Kiev forces do the same to local civilians who want some control of their daily lives.

    BTW, Happy 4th of July to all.
     
  2. Casper

    Casper Well-Known Member

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    I guess I am in a way, by expressing my views and sources here :)

    As you have mentioned it, perhaps its not too cheeky of me to ask what type of journalism you do?
     
  3. alexisfinch24

    alexisfinch24 Well-Known Member

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    Casper and Kate I love the debates that you guys are having. They are about relevant points and, you guys throw humor in too. Which makes it all more fun to read everyone's views on politics. We do not always have to agree. Sharing opinions can be quite fun. It is so refreshing to see two people who are not afraid to stand up for their beliefs.
     
  4. JayR17

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    Not completely sure what the government is currently doing but I do believe that most global issues they try and control, they end up making worse. We make ourselves look too controlling and prestigious compared to other nations and many people end up despising the US because of this. We are so power hungry that we get involved in so many issues that we still haven't solved our own.
     
  5. Rainman

    Rainman Senior Investor

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    The U.S has an obligation to stick it's nose in affairs that doesn't concern them because they happen to be one of the few super-powers in the world. When you are one of the biggest boy in your class you need to help maintain order in the classroom. When the small boys start misbehaving you have to warn them about all the bad things that could happen to them if . . . But point is, things would be very bad if the U.S didn't get involved in global issues for most countries that could not defend themselves should more powerful neighbors attack them.
     
  6. Gelsemium

    Gelsemium Senior Investor

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    The thing is that there is no police of the world and so far the US have been doing what they feel like it, let's face it, who wants to get in trouble with the all mighty US of A?

     
  7. Kate

    Kate Senior Investor

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    :D I respect Casper as a debate "partner" because he (she?) backs up what is said and I like to think (I hope!) that my views are respected, too. That's why I answer the posts from Casper... it's "safe" knowing there won't be an attack... well at least one we can't repair soon. (Can't say I didn't attack with sarcasm a time or two, but that's all fixed now, too, I think.)

    With Casper it's "I think water is bad, because.... and here's my proof." With some attacky people (that I usually don't bother answering) it's more like "water is evil and you'll go to hell if you drink water because water is evil and so is....." :mad: I mean where's any room for a dialog?
     
  8. Casper

    Casper Well-Known Member

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    Ok, probe, probe away Kate... As Casper is a Male name, I think it safe to assume I am (REDACTED). :)

    Which is a prerequisite for a sensible discussion.

    To be honest Kate, I am not sure what your views are. You state you are 'patriotic' but I also feel I am 'patriotic' as well and so do people like Snowden, Manning, Ron Paul etc, etc ad infinitum. I get the feeling you feel duty bound to 'defend' your Country but let's be clear here... I have never attacked your Country, only the politicians responsible for endless wars and carnage and I also say the same about my own Country's politicians who are equally as guilty.

    I love my Country, make no mistake, but I feel it my duty to call the out policies which are clearly wrong. I know the policies are wrong because the facts say they are contrary to everything my Country says it stands for and yet we carry on doing it anyway and it is covered up with lies and fake, 'We are bringing democracy and freedom' slogans to hide it.

    It is painful, but if you found out a close friend or family member was a serial murderer, should you ignore it? If politicians/corporations are taking your Country down a road that is wrong, sucking up the young and gullible into a patriotic fervor and military industrial complex and then spewing them out in a spent heap when they are of no further use... should you try to excuse it?

    I cannot and will not.

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  9. Kate

    Kate Senior Investor

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    You may want to sharpen your stalking/detective skills, Casper. Anyone who's read enough of my posts would know exactly what my views are... and sometimes in such blunt clarity that I had to re-think the wisdom in posting.

    Oh, and I've not been a "duty bound" sheeple a day in my entire life. That is so far from accurate. (Again, with a sharp detective skill, that's pretty clear here.)
     
  10. preyy

    preyy Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it's totally wrong from their part. They try too much to leech others' resources by promising an infectious democracy principle, the best example would be the Near East.
     

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