9 yo Chicago boy shot

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  1. baudwalk

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    Isn't this an issue in the whole of the US and not just Chicago? It's seems to be a society and culture issue as well as the availability of guns. I do find it very sad that a child can't walk home during the day and be threatened, but all around the world there are neighborhoods that aren't that safe.

    It does appear that this was a target, sadly it maybe related to someone he knows or is related to and what they have done or said. He was the innocent bystander and nothing could have really prevented this, except the politics that were happening among the gangs. Can you stop or change gang culture? That's the only way.
     
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    Darn straight it is sad that a child can't walk home from school. Chicago is leading the pack on the murders and shootings. Philadelphia and Baltimore, among other places, follow. Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the country but it has no effect on controlling the illegal guns used by the thugs and gangs. Obama's buddy in the mayor's chair won't or can't do a damn thing about it. Why doesn't Obama's Justice department go into Chicago as they did in Ferguson and Baltimore? Mayor Rudy Giuliani and his police department cleaned up New York City; it was a model for the country. Cleanup can be done. (Unfortunately Big Bird aka Mayor BiIl de Blasio has a different approach to crime, but that's another story.) Just to be clear, in my opinion this nationwide problem is not a Second Amendment issue. It is the thugs and their illegal guns. Drop the thugs in a hole and melt down the Uzi's.
     
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    Being from the UK, I can only give an outside opinion, but from where I'm sat, it does seem to be a nationwide issue that needs to be addressed and its not specific to just one town or city.

    Over here we have tougher gun laws, but crimes involving firearms are increasing so it's people's mentality that needs to change, not the actual gun laws themselves in my opinion.
     
  5. Susimi

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    Seriously sad for the young lad that lost his life, and for the parents who now have to come to terms with losing him at such a young age.

    Something does need to be done and I think a damn good start would be trying to crack down on gang cultures and gangs themselves.
     
  6. MakeDollarsSense

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    Many of these perpetrated crimes in inner cities are perpetrated with unlicensed weapons that are obtained illegally. It's not like they're getting there guns from shops like more law abiding gun owners. I'm not a spokesperson for the NRA, or a gun advocate by any means, but I think that by opening your post talking about massive gun availability is a disservice to the real plague. These large metropolitan cities harbor large amounts of gangs and people living in desperation. They aren't receiving good educations and each generation after the next is having less and less focused on good parenting. These things are a product of their environment. I think instead of making it a gun issue we have to think bigger picture and start building up a better education system in these metropolitan areas for the next generation, because it seems like were living among a lost generation currently. Lets get them adequate education and support systems for the youth to move them away from criminal activity, and take down the largest and most dangerous gangs in the city. Lets not wait until these people commit another crime for the umpteenth time, and lets start kicking down doors and start jailing all of these know gang members. They are terrorists within our cities and deserve to be treated as such.
     
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    Sadly, there are a lot of unfeeling psychopaths walking around. I predict the problem is only going to get worse and not better over the next several years. It is all part of the decline of society. I don';t know what the answer is but it is clear we don't have it now. I think people need a connection to something above themselves to behave themselves in a decent manner.
     
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    How tragic that the father isn't helping or taking any responsibility for this. Clearly he has ties and it was a message to him for some reason and with his record, he can't say that there is no cause for suspicion. Maybe he is afraid too, now that his name is out there, but this gangland issue has thrived too long.

    It is a social issue and segregation doesn't help. How can you eradicate this? One it has to be in the minds of the people (racism I feel plays a part) and also equal opportunities in education and work for those so they don't have to turn to a life of crime. Give them a choice, a realistic one and they don't have to be in the gang culture.
     
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    I should be surprised but sadly I'm not.

    If the father was a gangster himself then it's obvious he's gonna rebel against any authority types.
     

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