Biden Will he or won't he?

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  1. JR Ewing

    JR Ewing Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Hillary is in all probability done. She won't like get the nomination - if she does somehow avoid any sort of indictment and still manages to get nominated and somehow elected, stick a fork in America.

    Biden is already gaining on her and he hasn't even entered the race. Sanders is beating her in several states, and most of the GOP front runners are beating her or are very close now. The FBI has a criminal investigation going, and are in the process of giving her top tech flunkie immunity after he lawyered up.

    It's not looking good for her at all - it would take Obama's DOJ calling off the FBI dogs at this point, and she's a bad candidate anyway who cannot relate to people.
     
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  2. kgord

    kgord Senior Investor

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    Hillary doesn't seem to have the trust and authenticity factor she needs in order to achieve the support of the people. I think also she was badly hurt by the email "scandal." Biden is simply dripping with sincerity. I would be very surprised truthfully if he didn't run, and disappointed as well, as the Democrats, unlike the Republicans are underwhelmed with candidates. Look for a late entry from Vice President Biden.
     
  3. SteakTartare

    SteakTartare Senior Investor

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    If I was a betting man, I'd wager Biden is going to run. Why?


    • Hillary is circling the drain. Her poll numbers are in a death spiral, the Feds are investigating her, no one can name a significant accomplishment she's achieved. It is at least conceivable she could be facing a federal indictment.
    • Sanders is a Socialist, old, and unlikeable. Sure, the hard left loves him, but can you see him winning the general election? Hard to imagine.
    • Obama and crew hate the Clintons with an undying passion. They also want their vision of the party to continue on into the future. Biden would be the logical choice.
    • The other DNC candidates (Chafee, O'Malley, Webb) are no-namers. O'Malley's home state (Maryland) has the train wreck that is Baltimore in said.

    Added all up, I think Biden will make a play. Will he win? I wouldn't think so, but the DNC machine is nothing to sneeze at.
     
  4. Rainman

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    Apparently what Biden was waiting for is already happening. A number of Democrat fundraisers sent him a letter urging him to challenge Hillary because they believe he is the best candidate who finish what they thought was the "spectacular success" of the Obama administration. Whether or not he'll be the next president depends entirely on who the Republicans nominate. The likes of Trump won't sail through.
     
  5. mooray

    mooray Well-Known Member

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    Joe Bidden will enter the polls anytime now. I am just wondering why the delay? Is he waiting for Clinton's approval to take a toll or he is not sure about it. One thing is for sure, he will have a lot of ground to cover.
     
  6. kgord

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    I saw the talking heads on Face the Nation this weekend. I have also read this as well, that Biden will make a late entry into the race, as of February maybe. He will wait to see what is happening with the rest of the pack by then. It will also give him a chance to recuperate more emotionally and spiritually so this may be the thing that will happen. We will have to wait and see.
     
  7. spaceboytaylor

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    It'd be interesting to see him run. I see him as standing somewhere in between Sanders and Clinton on the issues which wold be really interesting to see in terms of voters who don't totally agree with one of them.
     
  8. gmckee1985

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    I think he's definitely leaning towards running. Hillary's very vulnerable and Bernie is way too much of a kook to ever get elected. The other candidates are total lightweights and duds. At this point I'd be surprised if he's not the Democrats candidate. Especially if more dirt on Hillary comes out.
     
  9. kgord

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    Well, he is already a factor in the polls where he is polling quite highly even though he has declined to respond as to whether or not he will enter the race. As I think I may have mentioned in another post...he has until I think it is February or something to make a decision. It just has to be before the filing decisions in several of the states. This is why I think it is likely he will delay as long as possible to make a decision. However, I would be surprised at this point if he doesn;t run, Especially with Hillary declining in the polls.
     
  10. Rosyrain

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    It is now starting to sound like Biden may announce his running, at least that is what the local news radio is predicting here. Since Hillary is losing momentum, he could probably swoop in and take the rest of her support. He just needs to learn to be on time when he is expected to be somewhere.
     

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