Trump or No Trump? What Do You Say?

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  1. Rainman

    Rainman Senior Investor

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    I wouldn't vote for Trump [that's if he does get the GOP nomination] but I wouldn't vote for Hillary either. To be honest there really is no candidate who I'd vote for. Who knows maybe I'd vote for an Independent candidate though I'm sure he won't win.
     
  2. manoharb

    manoharb Senior Investor

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    I am not an American, so, I don't have right to vote. but, If i was American, I vote Trump. I am checking his racist comments since he started. slowly I convinced, He made many right points. behind his racist comments, what i found is, He is taunting some racists in world by his comments. most of his comments or taunting was not related or against any american. he exposed some racists by representing their attitude inside himself. 1 Businessman, who understand well, how some corrupt politicians sometimes create problems in Business deals, is better than other politicians. Public blame cos. or Businessmen for corruption, but, sometime they don't check role of politicians in business.
    Mr. Trump made some anti-constitutional comments, but after that, i tried to understand facts behind that. I convinced, He is not targeting American constitution, he is targeting some other constitutions, which are pushing their responsibilities on US.
    I don't knew, Mr. Trump will win election or not, Americans will decide that, but, as a learner, I will admire his skills and points he made, always.
     
  3. manoharb

    manoharb Senior Investor

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    already wrote in previous comments, Criticism is way of earning popularity. Mr. Trump, used this weapon by very smart way. skills, always appreciate. of course, he have that otherwise he never become no. 1 in popularity.
     
  4. petesede

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    Trump has no chance of winning the general election, right now the Democrats are propping him up and pulling their punches. In one breath, they are raising awareness in the democrats about his crazy ideas, but in a sneaky way, they are also using terminology that they know will get the right-wingers behind him. The same things Hillary says to scare dems about him, are things that the right-wing loves in him. The dems are setting him up to be a punching bag later on.

    The media is helping too. They are reporting so much on the things he is saying now, but saving the old, good stuff for the general election.

    Here is a paraphrase of a quote made in 1998 about running for the President

    " If I were to run, I would run as a Republican. Those Fox News viewers are really stupid and I think I could say things and would do really well".

    For right now, the Dems and liberal media are more than happy that Trump is making immigration a central issue. There is nothing the Dems want more than if Latinos become a 90-10% group like blacks. They are going soft on Trump, keeping it entertaining, but they are purposefully doing nothing to erode his support from the far right, instead, they are making Trump out to be the champion of the far right, and of immigration for the far right..

    Could he win the nomination? I am still not sure. To me it is if if the Republican machinery can talk everyone else but 1 person into dropping out after Iowa. If after Iowa, there is only one other candidate backed by the machine, Trump will not win a single state. I think if the machine switches from Bush to Rubio, it will be over by Iowa.
     
  5. hawksfan9325

    hawksfan9325 Active Member

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    FYI...Internet Hoax, it was never said.
     
  6. TheApollonian

    TheApollonian Well-Known Member

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    No Trump for me thank you, I'm not from the USA mind you but I promise you Trump's going to be terrible in the international arena with all his harsh diatribes, racist opinions and general idiocracy as President. If he's not someone you'd consider a Peace Prize for then he's not going to be a good President.
     
  7. djordjem87

    djordjem87 Well-Known Member

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    I am not an American but if I were one I would definitely avoid this person. I do understand it is all show and media circus but I feel he is just not made for a president. He is too blunt, he acts too radically and some of his thoughts are simply outdated but still he has voters which means many of the Americans are bigots and no matter what they say or do that will not change. I cannot project the U.S if Trump get elected. It wouldn't be boring, that's for sure. If I had to choose I would say it doesn't really matter for big decisions because those are not made by presidents but by those people who have power.
     
  8. ARP

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    So, I try to be fair about people. I have listened to Him (my New Years resolution was to not say his name, since everytime someone writes about him on the internet his standings go up regardless of what they say, and I figure one of his supporters would prefer it if I say Him instead of my usual Voldemort) speak, the unfiltered, unedited speeches he has given, and I can assure you that though the media is probably the only reason his campaign is alive. True, the media will constantly mock him, but they are not making him look bad. If anything, the constant attention he is being given helps Him in the polls. His comments are every bit as extreme and prejudiced. Even if you weren't to take into consideration the claims that he said a black lives matter protestor should have been beaten by his groupies harder, what he says is in itself incriminating. His ego could fill the UN embassy and then some. The man truly believes he is better than everyone at everything, he thinks he is better than all of you, and that he could be a better president because of it. That ego will be his undoing. He's found a friend in putin of all people! A monster in the making who is clearly responsible (at least partly) for political assassinations mere blocks from the Russian capitol! He would not make a good president, and if he wins I am out of here. Not because of his internal policies as much as the fact that his foreign policy would be potentially catastrophic for the U.S.
     
  9. petesede

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    Really? Sorry, I fell for it. I saw it too many times from both sides. Maybe they did a Isaac Hayes / Southpark thing

    I still think my point stands, the media is laying off on Trump and putting a microphone in front of him specifically because it helps the Dems. That will turn if he gets the nomination.
     
  10. JR Ewing

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    I would also say the same for Hillary, Bernie, and Obama. They're all about pandering to the Least Common Denominator (and those who outwardly express guilt for not being part of the LCD themselves) by appealing to their emotions by promising more free stuff, and by getting those evil corporations run by those rich white men to pay for it.

    And of course a big problem with this idea is that it's the small businesses and middle class who end up paying for it - since the big corps and super rich can afford to hire armies of lawyers and accountants to lobby for exemptions, and even move overseas to get around these things.

    It's no coincidence that so many super rich and big corps have contributed many millions to Hillary's campaign AND her foundation.

    Still, the super rich are playing a dangerous game for themselves IMO by backing today's radical socialist US party. Sometimes it doesn't quite go how they'd hoped for themselves:
    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/264542-liberal-billionaire-soros-regrets-backing-obama
     
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