Turkey Shot Down a Russian War Plane

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  1. pwarbi

    pwarbi Senior Investor

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    How many times have planes from a country invaded another countries airspace and they've been challenged, and then escorted away and that's been the end of it?

    Would the US shoot down a UK plane without engaging in communication? In fact would any country in NATO INCLUDING Turkey, shoot down a US plane or an Australian plane? Course it wouldn't, so why should they get away with doing it to a Russian plane?
     
  2. Ohh22

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    They did have a fairly good relationship with Russia and they should really keep it up. Turkey is in a horrible place right now and need all of the help they can get! They don't need a war with a huge military like Russia. It's stupid for them to try something because of how easily Russia would destroy them. Just my opinion.
     
  3. Corzhens

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    Pardon me for this late reply. From what I gathered, Turkey had sent several warning message to the Russian fighter plane that it was trespassing on Turkish air space. A US military (I forgot the name) corroborated that claim of Turkish air force that the Russian plane ignored the warning. And feeling insecure, the Turkish air force was left with no other option but to shoot down the Russian war plane. And we already know what happened next, the civil relation of Turkey and Russia had ended.
     
  4. Rainman

    Rainman Senior Investor

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    Turkey, according to some theories, shot down the plane because NATO wanted them to. The goal, the Turks didn't know it, was to "damage" relations between Russia and Turkey because they didn't like Russia's plans to supply natural gas to Western Europe through Turkey. Whether that's true or not, it will take a really long time for Turkey and Russia to forget what happened in November 2015.
     
  5. Alex

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    It's a bit of a way out theory, and the Turks would have been foolish to agree to such a thing. It may explain why NATO are supporting them, but the premise is something you see in a mini-series on television rather than in real life. That's playing with fire, and if it was ever proved to be the case, NATO should disband immediately. The world cannot have organizations acting in a manner that is supposed to promote peace.
     
  6. crimsonghost747

    crimsonghost747 Senior Investor

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    Well, it's just another conspiracy theory. The way I see it is: Why would Turkey ever say yes to such a proposal? It makes NO SENSE.
     
  7. Susimi

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    I've got a little bit of a hard time in believing this one but hey you never know, it might be the case.

    I really think this was just a simple shoot down incident that was a warning from Turkey if the plane did not enter their airspace and a security threat if it indeed did.
     
  8. Rainman

    Rainman Senior Investor

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    We never will found out exactly what happened. The Russian warplane was in Turkey for only 2 seconds but it was shot down even though the two countries aren't at war.

    Take a look at this article:

    http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/...bart-nato-okayed-turkeys-downing-russian-jet/
    Truth or fiction? We never will know.
     
  9. Alex

    Alex Senior Investor

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    With such an important decision to make, would they really have had time to ask NATO? I doubt it. Although it may have been discussed with what to do, the question is who sanctioned it and when? I doubt we will find out the truth, it's been buried deep somewhere.
     
  10. Susimi

    Susimi Senior Investor

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    All the relevant info will be buried all right, and if they did get clearance from NATO then the would have done it long before the incident happened. It happened all too quickly for it to have gone through different channels.

    An F-16 fighter fired on and shot down the Russian plane, so the question is was the fighter pilot given a fire at will/free hunt permission before taking off or did he get clearance beforehand? He would have picked it up on radar long before he got within missile range so he was bound to have time to radio base.

    Interesting to think about.
     

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